372: ‘$8 Billion in Late Fees’, With Rene Ritchie

The Talk Show With John Gruber - A podcast by Daring Fireball / John Gruber

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Rene Ritchie returns to the show to discuss generative AI (and what Apple might soon do with it), iPhone passcodes and iCloud device security, HBO Max turning into just plain Max, and *Make Something Wonderful* — one more thing from Steve Jobs.

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