286: Remote From WWDC 2020 With Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak

The Talk Show With John Gruber - A podcast by Daring Fireball / John Gruber

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John Gruber is joined by Craig Federighi and Greg Joswiak to discuss the news from WWDC 2020: the Mac’s transition to Apple silicon, MacOS 11 Big Sur, iOS and iPadOS 14, and more.

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