150: ‘Strict Robot Definer’ With Jason Snell

The Talk Show With John Gruber - A podcast by Daring Fireball / John Gruber

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Jason Snell returns to the show for an in-depth look at last week's Apple Event, and the two products that were introduced: the iPhone SE and the 9.7-inch iPad Pro. Other topics include the ongoing FBI/Apple encryption soap opera, what's wrong with the Apple Watch -- and our appreciation for the late great Garry Shandling.

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