41: Are experts always the best teachers? With Gary Hibberd

Today's guest is Gary Hibberd, AKA "The Professor of Communicating Cyber" for the Cyberfort Group. Gary has worked in cybersecurity for over 35 years, spending much of that time in highly regulated industries. We get into some areas that we’ve not covered all that much on the podcast before, such as the impact of branding and marketing on cybersecurity, and how organizations might be missing a trick if they’re not talking to their marketing teams about how they’re keeping their customers’ data safe. We also talk about the work that Gary does for his charity, Gamers Beat Cancer. Plus, if you haven't seen it already, he shared his experiences for our recent e-book on mental health and burnout.The wonderful Tazin Khan is also back, and she opens the show with a thoughtful discussion on how experts aren’t always the best teachers, and how we can best create community and representatives that can help our mission as an industry.