#56 - Turner on Rules for Robots
Philosophical Disquisitions - A podcast by John Danaher
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In this episode I talk to Jacob Turner. Jacob is a barrister and author. We chat about his new book, Robot Rules: Regulating Artificial Intelligence (Palgrave Macmillan, 2018), which discusses how to address legal responsibility, rights and ethics for AI. You can download here or listen below. You can also subscribe to the show on iTunes, Stitcher and a variety of other services (the RSS feed is here). Show Notes0:00 - Introduction1:33 - Why did Jacob write Robot Rules?2:47 - Do we need special legal rules for AI?6:34 - The responsibility 'gap' problem11:50 - Private law vs criminal law: why it's important to remember the distinction14:08 - Is is easy to plug the responsibility gap in private law?23:07 - Do we need to think about the criminal law responsibility gap?26:14 - Is it absurd to hold AI criminally responsible?30:24 - The problem with holding proximate humans responsible36:40 - The positive side of responsibility: lessons from the Monkey selfie case41:50 - What is legal personhood and what would it mean to grant it to an AI?48:57 - Pragmatic reasons for granting an AI legal personhood51:48 - Is this a slippery slope?56:00 - Explainability and AI: Why is this important?1:02:38 - Is there are right to explanation under EU law?1:06:16 - Is explainability something that requires a technical solution not a legal solution?1:08:32 - The danger of fetishising explainability Relevant LinksRobot Rules: Regulating Artificial IntelligenceWebsite for the bookJacob on TwitterJacob giving a lecture about the book at the University of Law"Robots, Law and the Retribution Gap" by John DanaherThe Darknet Shopper CaseThe Monkey Selfie CaseAlgorithmic Entities by Lynn LoPucki (discussing Shawn Bayern's argument)Matthew Scherer's critique of Bayern's claim that AI's can already acquire legal personhood #mc_embed_signup{background:#fff; clear:left; font:14px Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; } /* Add your own MailChimp form style overrides in your site stylesheet or in this style block. We recommend moving this block and the preceding CSS link to the HEAD of your HTML file. */ Subscribe to the newsletter