How Our Sonic Sausage Gets Made (Mack Hagood w/ Dario Llinares & Lori Beckstead)

This episode, we take you behind the scenes of Phantom Power. Producer/host Mack Hagood was invited by Dario Llinares and Lori Beckstead to be a guest on their show, The Podcast Studies Podcast. As you may or may not know, there are a lot of academics out there not only making podcast themselves but also studying podcasts and podcasting as a genre and an industry–and Dario and Lori are in that camp. Their podcast is a tremendous resource for those who want to understand this emerging academic field.In the interview, Dario prompted Mack to go pretty deep into the production of Phantom Power, exploring the techniques and philosophy behind the show, as well as the potential Mack sees for podcasting as a format for generating scholarly knowledge. And after the interview, Lori had some intriguing comments about what counts as “original scholarship” when we do it in sound. So, as we prepare our 2022 season of Phantom Power, we thought we’d share this discussion of how our sonic sausage gets made. And we’ll be back next month with a new original episode!Things we talk about in this episode:Hush: Media and Sonic Self-Control by Mack Hagood (Duke, 2019)“Emotional Rescue” by Mack Hagood (Real Life, December 3, 2020)“The Scholarly Podcast: Form and Function in Audio Academia” by Mack Hagood in Saving New Sounds: Podcast Preservation and Historiography, Jeremy Wade Morris and Eric Hoyt, Eds (University of Michigan Press, 2021).Ep. 8: Test Subjects (Mara Mills), Phantom Power Ep. 29 | R. Murray Schafer (1933-2021) Pt.1, Phantom Power. Ep. 30 | R. Murray Schafer Pt. 2: Critiques & Contradictions, Phantom Power.