Episode 10: Making Law Better with Cat Moon
Legal Design Podcast - A podcast by Henna Tolvanen & Nina Toivonen
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Future law will be done by the law students of today. To make the legal systems and legal practices fit for purpose in the digitalized era, it is necessary that lawyers know more than just the law. But what are the skills needed for the lawyers of the fourth industrial revolution? And more importantly, are contemporary law schools committed to building those skills? Back in the day when Henna and Nina were law students, it was possible to graduate from law school without ever seeing an actual legal document, yet practicing how to make one. It is no wonder if law graduates struggle adapting to real working life, if the real working life never goes to lecture halls. In this episode we discuss how to make law better through legal education with Caitlin “Cat” Moon. Cat teaches law and legal problem solving in the Program on Law and Innovation at Vanderbilt Law School in Nashville, Tennessee. Cat explains why we need human centric design thinking to solve the legal problems of today, and how to build 21st century legal competence by using the Lawyer Skills Delta Model. She also tells about her popular Legal Problem Solving course at Vanderbilt, and we hear what skills podcast making can teach for a future lawyer.