Extra: Jason Kelce Hates to Lose

Freakonomics Radio - A podcast by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

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Pro footballer and star podcaster Jason Kelce is ubiquitous right now (almost as ubiquitous as his brother and co-host Travis, who's been in the limelight for his relationship with Taylor Swift). After you hear this wide-ranging interview, you might want even more Kelce in your life.

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