356: Becoming a Product Manager ft. Cemre Güngör

Design Details - A podcast by Marshall Bock, Brian Lovin

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This week, we caught up with [Cemre Güngör](https://twitter.com/gem_ray) to talk about transitioning from design to product management, the tension between the roles of PD and PM, why products fail, and so much more. In The Sidebar, we discuss the most over- and under-rated skills for PMs.

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