247: Give A Goat A Gobstopper (feat. Kyle Turman)

Design Details - A podcast by Marshall Bock, Brian Lovin

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Today we caught up with Kyle Turman, a product designer on the design systems team at Etsy. In this episode we dig into Kyle's work at Etsy on building seller-facing design systems, working remotely, the value of craft, and Bryn and Brian get a free therapy session.

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