#15 Data Definitions and "Durable in the Middle" Model - Interview w/ Benn Stancil

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts (most interviews from #32 on) hereProvided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.Links from show:Benn's Twitter: @bennstancil / https://twitter.com/bennstancilBenn's Substack: https://benn.substack.com/Benn's post on entities: https://benn.substack.com/p/metadata-money-corporationStarship Technologies Data Mesh Post: https://medium.com/starshiptechnologies/dodging-the-data-bottleneck-data-mesh-at-starship-5925a2de45e6In this episode Scott interviewed Benn Stancil, co-founder and Chief Analytics Officer at Mode about his emerging concept of global definitions that he is calling an "entity" - essentially, how are people defining terms like customer and what does that mean in each instance so people are on the same page. Data mesh also requires some clear collaboration on definitions, whether centralized or decentralized, in the federated governance pillar. This interview was generated from a Twitter conversation here.Benn then went into some details about how he views the importance of having visibility into how data "breaks" so it is much easier to identify and fix and that limiting custom integration is crucial so when you fix at the source, it properly propagates downstream. They wrapped up discussing the need to make data producers' lives easier while simultaneously doing the same with data consumers.Overall, there are some agreements and disagreements and Scott came out thinking more about what are the real causes of pain that would make a full journey to data mesh make sense. It's a good episode to see some of the challenges people are trying to tackle outside of the data mesh community.Data Mesh Radio is hosted by Scott Hirleman. If you want to connect with Scott, reach out to him at community at datameshlearning.com or on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scotthirleman/If you want to learn more and/or join the Data Mesh Learning Community, see here: https://datameshlearning.com/community/All music used this episode was found on PixaBay and was created by (including slight edits by Scott Hirleman): Lesfm,