Julieanne King talks about moving content on pages and ADHD
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Julieanne says when she's information seeking, trying to accomplish a task, movement on the screen, that is not something that she causes to happen or choose to happen can absolutely derail her. Thanks to Tenon for sponsoring the transcript for this episode. Transcript Nic Hi, I'm Nic Steenhout. And you're listening to the accessibility rules soundbite, a series of short podcasts where disabled people explain their impairment and what barriers they encounter on the web. Nic First, I need to thank Tenon for sponsoring the transcript for this episode. Tenon provides accessibility as a service. They offer testing, training, and tooling to help fix accessibility, fast. Nic Today, I'm talking with Julieanne King. Hi, Julieanne, how are you? Julieanne Hi, I'm doing great today. Nic Thanks for coming on board. I think everyone's now familiar with the format. So I'm gonna jump right in and ask you, Julieanne, what's your disability or impairment? Julieanne ADHD and high sensitivity. Nic Tell me what, what does that mean? I think a lot of people are familiar with ADHD but maybe don't really understand what that is. And high sensitivity. What's that? Julieanne High sensitivity is when your nervous system is kind of highly aware, some people prefer compression, sort of like the Temple Grandin compression thing that she developed for cows. So sometimes more close fitting clothing calms, helps calm my nervous system. So my nervous system is a little amped up and I pick up on lots of stuff in my environment. It also exacerbates some of the symptoms of ADHD, which is why I wanted to actually mention that. So things like test anxiety and, you know, taking comments to a more extreme level and personally, that's where the high sensitivity comes in and further exacerbates the ADHD. Nic Thank you for sharing that. What would be your greatest barrier on the web? Because for most people, you know, we think accessibility is good for blind people and maybe deaf people. But how does ADHD come into the into the play and the high sensitivity of course. Julieanne Movement that is not of my choosing, or my control. So when I go into a video game, I know I'm going to play a game and I know there's going to be movement. So that's my expectation. But when I'm information seeking, trying to accomplish a task, movement on the screen, that is not something that I cause to happen or choose to happen can absolutely derail me. Things like ads, videos, GIFs oh my god stop the GIFs. They move too fast, carousel, slideshows, parallax websites, and password creation has been one of my latest ones that's been driving me nuts. Nic And when you said derails you what's what's that? mean? In particular. Julieanne It can make me forget what I was there to do. I'm trying to accomplish something in it sort of scrambles, my ability to focus. And so I'm trying to get a task done, accomplish a goal, get specific information. And when I get too much distraction or interruption, I have to step back because it raises anger, it raises anxiety, it raises stress, it raises agitation, from the high sensitivity space that sort of makes me feel like I'm like quivering or vibrating and can't control it. So yeah, it's problematic. Nic So basically, movement on a page can block you not only from completing the workflow you were going to complete, but it can also ruin your day. Julieanne Yeah. Or at least, you know, a couple of hours. Yeah, it can literally derail me for a couple of hours it takes, it's sort of related to like when you're trying to do deep focus, and you're really in that place. And any kind of distraction can pull you out of that deep focus where you're making those deep work connections. And it's like that, and even just a telephone ringing, a ping, from some messaging system can actually take you out of it. And it takes two to three times as long to get back to where you were. A